Is Gore-Tex Worth It? Waterproof Comparison Test

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Gore-Tex, the Mike Tyson of the waterproof membrane world, goes up against 7 contenders to the throne. We have everything from cheap and cheerful basic liners to high-performance waterproof membranes from Alpinestars, Rev’it and Dainese. Round One…FIGHT!
Gear breakdown:
Revit Neptune Gore-Tex Jacket - frt9.co/x5injm
Frogg Toggs Pro Action Rain Jacket - frt9.co/q9l6rr
Fieldsheer Moto Morph Jacket - frt9.co/dfqjq8
Dainese Hyper Flux D-Dry Jacket - frt9.co/7ffjwu
Alpinestars T-Core Air Drystar Jacket - frt9.co/z1ldfi
Revit Sand 3 Jacket - frt9.co/h7lvqx
Olympia Expedition 2 Jacket - frt9.co/2955so
Scott Summer VTD Vented Jacket - frt9.co/6f5wyb

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KOMMENTARE
Kieran D
Kieran D Vor 4 Stunden
Fantastic content. Keep it up.
Soeren Uhlmann
Soeren Uhlmann Vor 2 Tage
an other problem with all these test they make for waterproof fabrics is, that they never account friction!!! when I move my arms and they rub on my body or the backpack is rubbing on the fabric. same for leaves and brush in the forrest. this stuff also lowers the water proofnees cause you rub the water into the membrane and once it is through the cabillar effect does the rest.
Phil Rocks
Phil Rocks Vor 4 Tage
0:48 PTFE is Teflon. The more you know
Ari R
Ari R Vor 4 Tage
Nice Test Dude , Thank You
TomeuRR
TomeuRR Vor 7 Tage
My Gore Tex gloves just stopped working, now they get wet at any minimum water drop like a mad cop ... They were not cheap ( 180€ )...
Mike APMechanic
Mike APMechanic Vor 13 Tage
Just saw the video about liners. Gor-tex is the best. I have very expensive Gor-tex lined Bates tactical boots. I tested them through Denver winters, lots of snow and deep puddles and my feet were always warm and dry. Gor-tex products are always going to be more expensive because it does what they advertise. Very good quality video.
Christian Ramm
Christian Ramm Vor 16 Tage
When you compare breathe ability for example like the RET scale, gore tex can score different on the type of jacket and materials used (layers, 40d vs 75d etc) so this is like Comparing apples to oranges in my eyes. This is why buying a hiking jacket is a pain in the ass... buying something for both ability to breathe and waterproofing is a fine mixture. For example: goretex 28 000mm, RET 5, 40D, = about 600grams weight on a size large jacket. So by adjusting the treads you can get a lighter jacket but not necessarily a more robust to scratches. Hope's this helps someone. Good video.
Marty Niner
Marty Niner Vor 16 Tage
Love your shirt!
rae wood
rae wood Vor 17 Tage
You videos are pure entertainment. I thank you. Keep up the good work.
Literary Artist
Literary Artist Vor 18 Tage
Dude this is awesome! Love how you reviewed this! Thanks!
Gabriel Rosewood
Gabriel Rosewood Vor 22 Tage
I bout a gortex rain shell from REI on sale for 100 bucks but I got it a size larger then I usually wear so I can put a sweater underneath it. It works great for a fraction of the cost of a real motorcycle jacket. plus it works in warmer weather too!
That Alaska Guy
That Alaska Guy Vor 28 Tage
Something else to consider is that goretex doesn’t melt around bug dope, some other types will. I like goretex, it’s the only membrane I’ve found that keeps you dry over time but it eventually fails as well. I’m not sure why? The coat can look good, no apparent damage the the shell or seams but it still soaks through. Your breath ability test was right on. Under heavy excursion in cold weather it doesn’t breath very well and I’ve had ice/frost form under my shell. But, nothing is perfect. They make a different version of goretex for more active use but for street bike riding, the normal version is preferred.
Jacob Franklin
Jacob Franklin Vor 29 Tage
Channel is very underrated
Meme Machine
Meme Machine Vor Monat
Gore Tex is not breathable I would rather have wet feet than hot feet
Devin Auld
Devin Auld Vor Monat
Did you consider mounting the jackets liner side out for the vapor penetration tests? Maybe some of these fabrics have a sidedness to them.
bat shit crazy motorcycles
bat shit crazy motorcycles Vor Monat
excellent review. would be better if you set them on fire at the end. just saying
cameron Bidiix
cameron Bidiix Vor Monat
0:48 Have you seen dark waters by any chance?
Felipe Lins - Físico
Felipe Lins - Físico Vor Monat
Amazing vídeo!!!
Coleman Adamson
Coleman Adamson Vor Monat
Stick your millimeters up your arse.
Blue Vullubuh
Blue Vullubuh Vor Monat
awesome video!, it would be great to have a follow up on how they degrade, u.v. salt, humidity.... i really liked this video.
Frank Techmaniac
Frank Techmaniac Vor Monat
Gore Tex is much more durable than other membranes. My oldest GT membrane is 26 years in use and still works. Unfortunately the seam tapes have started falling off. I always go for riding suits with extra membrane. The old one was a "BMW" made by Klepper, the newer is a Dane.
peter hutt
peter hutt Vor Monat
Great stuff!! Great review methodology
greasefitting49
greasefitting49 Vor Monat
In my experience, you can't have water proof AND breathable. Even my gortex brand jacket couldn't keep me dry for more than a couple of hours working in storms. My rubber jacket I bought from a lobster fishermans outfitter, on the otherhand...
deepsquat600
deepsquat600 Vor Monat
Look guys and gals.. just use the same rain gear that fisherman use on The Deadliest Catch ... you will NOT ever get wet.. no it is not pretty . but will keep you dry in a hurricane I have ever got a drop of rain on me wearing my Gordons Fisherman/ Morton Salt girl :) gear
Brandon Brown
Brandon Brown Vor Monat
As a mountaineer who also sold sporting goods for 6 years, I can attest that GoreTex is king. Trust me when I say I really wanted some other promising brands to work because of the overpriced GoreTex. Not to mention as a company they a bullies. But nobody has come close to the balance of waterproof and breath ability. Sure Gordon fisherman yellows are far more waterproof and soft shell NorthFace is way more breathable but living in the NW if I get caught in ugly weather GoreTex products win. Also as a note when the outer fabric of any jacket become soaked breath ability Is crap in everything, it’s why I always recommend put zips no matter the jacket.
Donald Cameron
Donald Cameron Vor Monat
Thanks man always trippy
B Schadle
B Schadle Vor Monat
I love these test videos you do. I am a strong proponent of Gore-Tex in my boots and pants. Still love my Rev’It jacket though not so much for waterproofing but for overall comfort and fit. Keep the videos coming!
bipola telly
bipola telly Vor Monat
Depends what "it" is.
Blarfnugle
Blarfnugle Vor Monat
I still use the goretex jacket from my days in the army, 8 years and still strong
Daniel Tull
Daniel Tull Vor 2 Monate
What a great video! I love them. Love you are from Canada as well! I live in the lower mainland, so it’s great to hear which brands have better waterproofing
B Penny
B Penny Vor 2 Monate
This test could only be improved by simulating a rally experience, having beer tipped over you and passing out in a wet field, at what time in the morning did cold and damp wake you. How would I know that?
Aha
Aha Vor 2 Monate
Brilliant video!
poormarley
poormarley Vor 2 Monate
Tard units try to proove superiority... héééééééé nothing happened. Bwaaaaaa let's continue to use it and call others tard
Stalin
Stalin Vor 2 Monate
I don't think that your psi test is really accurate. It's not just testing water pressure against the fabric, but overall rupture pressure, which stretching will contribute to. For a test of it's membrane's ability to resist pressure flow, you'd want something to support the fabric. On your body, the water is pressing against the fabric and against your body behind that. The material is somewhat supported.
Matthijs Roovers
Matthijs Roovers Vor 2 Monate
Don't think this is the right way of testing: it's not ment as a pressure vessel. Probably should put it in a siff to prevent structural damage to investigate the water pressure retaining capabilities of the material in a comparable way, avoiding that the thickest one would win (which will probably will be the least comfortable IRL. vapor transmitting capabilities grow with thinner membrains, while pressure resistance deminishes.
R Joseph
R Joseph Vor 2 Monate
keep in mind that construction plays a part, I worked for a softgoods company and it doesn't matter how good the membrane is if the jacket/pant is constructed like shite. I've used everything from GT to the cheapo stuff and typically while riding when I've had a leak, it was at a seam, right in the crotch. Doh. Look for well taped seams, especially on pants.
J.F. Ouellette
J.F. Ouellette Vor 2 Monate
Many years ago I worked in the microporous membrane business. When looking at breathability, consider that there is a speed limit at which water vapour will go through the membrane. Therefore, if your body generates more water vapour than the film can extract, you will accumulate water vapour on the inside. Hence, you are trapping sweat close to your skin. Also, these membrane work best in dry climates as they "pull" the vapour outside. Ironically, when its raining, it tends to traps more water vapour inside the garment.
Stevie T
Stevie T Vor 2 Monate
Great video. Very accurate!
William Gabriel
William Gabriel Vor 2 Monate
There should be more regulations to test the marketing claims
Eben A.
Eben A. Vor 2 Monate
Someone give this man a raise
Miller Four
Miller Four Vor 2 Monate
Goretex pro?
misha uri uri
misha uri uri Vor 2 Monate
What about dyneema?
Der moment
Der moment Vor 2 Monate
really graete and probably helpfull vidio, thanks! simon
Thomas Lindroos
Thomas Lindroos Vor 2 Monate
Ok so its just a pressure rating, no matter how big the square is may it be on square inch or 1m² if its measured in water column. They might as well use Pascal but I guess its convenient for the layman to use water column when you measure water proofing
grumpy old fart
grumpy old fart Vor 2 Monate
personally, I prefer a couple of large contractor garbage bags. They just get a little noisy above 35 MPH
R L
R L Vor 2 Monate
'Top Gear' grade video!!!
Tim Wey
Tim Wey Vor 3 Monate
yeez i own a pair of gore tex pants and theres a hole at my knees. no my knee gets all wet. i asked my local repair to get it fixed but they cant request any gore tex material, soooo they just put double layer something on and it still gets all wet if it rains heavy
Alexandr Golubev
Alexandr Golubev Vor 3 Monate
Thanks you very much. I bye Dainese D-Blizzard D-Dry
Roger Davis
Roger Davis Vor 3 Monate
Oh thank you finally some one does a video on goretex , some people think it's the outside that's waterproof with vortex it's not, its applied waterproof, Teflon wax and other chemicals. Thank you for a explanation of the product.
Kristian Katic
Kristian Katic Vor 3 Monate
You said garbage bag is impermeable, yet it would fail on your pressure test maybe even before some of the membranes. Pressure test results were affected by the materials tensile strength.
jim wortham
jim wortham Vor 3 Monate
What are all your videos so long and freaking boring
Philip Dillon
Philip Dillon Vor 3 Monate
@FortNine Do you happen to know how the 37.5 membrane on the FirstGear Kilimanjaro jacket compares? Thanks!
Purfefun2
Purfefun2 Vor 3 Monate
I have been watching this cat for like 8 months... absolutely love this science based take on all products. Science it's what's for dinner. Peace Out
Paul
Paul Vor 3 Monate
Just found you better than hootie's garage
V Star 1300 Adventures
V Star 1300 Adventures Vor 3 Monate
I've tried Frogg Toggs three times, each time hoping they would finally be good. they have failed each time in less than 2 hours.
V Star 1300 Adventures
V Star 1300 Adventures Vor 3 Monate
Yes. It is worth every penny. You have to make sure you don't just buy a brand name like say Klim, that has issues with water infiltration. Don't accept any poor design features like zippers....that aren't waterproof. Amazon is a wonderful place to find good Gore Tex gear without spending good used motorcycle money.
thejeffinvade
thejeffinvade Vor 3 Monate
7:39 10:20 results
Nicko Persilion
Nicko Persilion Vor 3 Monate
You successfully tested the compressive stress resistance of different fabrics, pumps clamped to jackets is no model for rain aspersion.
James Lamb
James Lamb Vor 3 Monate
I've had a few cheap jackets (not motorcycle gear) where the breathable (PTFE?) fabric was the inside layer, with nothing protecting it. All of them failed pretty quickly due to abrasion. One jacket I had delaminated, and I was told I used the wrong detergent to clean it. Who knew? Yeah - fine print on the label. I have a really expensive Goretex jacket that I inherited; the Goretex is thicker and it is protected on both sides by another fabric. This jacket is pretty awesome, but yes, crazy expensive. Also, I've had hiking shoes with Goretex and other breathable fabrics. Shoe construction is a bit trickier due to the seams, but the Goretex shoes I've owned have left my feet feeling less sweaty than the imitators, and excellent waterproofing.
James Lamb
James Lamb Vor 3 Monate
I've had several pairs of waterproof pants. All of them failed first in the spot you least want water - the crotch. There is a construction design problem - too many seams meet in the crotch, which is where, at speed, the wind is pushing the water. Sealing the seams better would be one approach, but re-designing the pants so the seams are in a less vulnerable spot would be a better solution.
[yt] -_-
[yt] -_- Vor 3 Monate
Actually a solid review
Mh Zhou
Mh Zhou Vor 3 Monate
Can smell get in goretex fabric ?
theodgmingo
theodgmingo Vor 3 Monate
Hey Ryan, love what you do. i wanted to point out an option many people ignore. Genuine military surplus gear. I am a retired us army vet, and been riding 40 years.all my riding buddy's spend stupid amounts of money on their gear , only to complain how much it sucks on one of our 1000 mile runs. my gear may not look as cool , but im warmer , dryer and in some cases, safer than my friends. Police surplus is also a great option. i have a great leather jacket , and boots that came from German state police motorcycle officers. any how , id love to see you cover this subject. kind of a" be safe and comfortable on the cheap " best regards. P.S Your way too good for DEshow
Anomie
Anomie Vor 3 Monate
Damn it I just spent big bucks on some Alpinestar AVD boots. With those test results I am second guessing my decision.
Rosemary [US-CT]
Rosemary [US-CT] Vor 3 Monate
hahahaha FARCE... u continue to be a reliable source of information replete with good natured humor. now to the important part... choosing. stink or sink? [flips coin].
manou2006
manou2006 Vor 3 Monate
What about humax and sympatex membranes?
Maurice Gauvin
Maurice Gauvin Vor 3 Monate
For what its worth, Frog Toggs are just a waste of money. I bought a set a few years ago and because they had to fit over my regular gear they where larger. On one long rainy ride home over 6 hours they started to come apart. The inner and outer layer started to delaminate and because of the loose fit they literally "flapped" themselves apart. Second time I had to use them I got wet within 30 minutes of riding.
pan kum
pan kum Vor 3 Monate
Well well well .....if I want to create one tarp by my hand ....gorotex is 100%water proof on the rain ???????
Rider Mak
Rider Mak Vor 4 Monate
Also remember that the breathe ability is greatly affected by temperature difference on opposite sides of the membrane. The colder it is, the better your body heat can drive out vapor.
Matt Fisher
Matt Fisher Vor 4 Monate
Bloody brilliant. Hats off to you, this has answered all my questions. Any chance you could do this test with other brands... Richa? Rukka etc
Trevor Brown
Trevor Brown Vor 4 Monate
How can a fabric fail waterproofing and breathability as well?
Denis Elis
Denis Elis Vor 4 Monate
I was just looking at Dainese all season touring jackets and you helped me make a final decision.
Mark Phipps
Mark Phipps Vor 4 Monate
Some spray on or clothes dryer applied waterproofing products go a long way to keep you dry. I have had good results with London Fog’s spray and with Scotch Guard spray. Never Wet is incredible. Water does not stand a chance with Never Wet. All these sprays have an lingering odor for awhile so don’t apply them expecting to use them right away. Never Wet takes your breath with a strong chemical vapors for a week after application. You can’t even bring it in the house for a week so plan to store it in the garage for that week.
jon smith
jon smith Vor 4 Monate
Another great video that I can really use. I use Frogg Toggs because of price and rolled up size. Thanks
Amrev 2.0
Amrev 2.0 Vor 4 Monate
impressive amigo..respect!
William Roberts
William Roberts Vor 5 Monate
Gore tex is good for keeping your enemies blood off ya 2
SnobGoblin the third
SnobGoblin the third Vor 5 Monate
Everything I love about this channel. Its scientific and proven on screen with facts.
wolfe1970
wolfe1970 Vor 5 Monate
Another joke of a test, anyone who takes these tests seriously need sending back to school, you need to quit doing this clueless tests, i could rip most of them apart with errors upon errors
Chaitanya Chiplunkar
Chaitanya Chiplunkar Vor 5 Monate
Wow! That's really good scientific information presented in a systematic approach. Kudos. Keep up the good work!😀👍🎉
Frank Blackcrow
Frank Blackcrow Vor 5 Monate
I have a raincoat.. every time I wear it end up wetter on the inside.. cheap shit from Kmart.
Eda Bean
Eda Bean Vor 5 Monate
Is there a textile abrasion resistance comparison video?
Chris Prouse
Chris Prouse Vor 5 Monate
Wow! That was incredibly well done! Thanks for sharing 👍
122309A
122309A Vor 5 Monate
Well I spent $8 on a $500 goretex jacket I found at value village after searching for 4 minutes so I guess it’s worth it. Thrift, people!
alex bic
alex bic Vor 5 Monate
Thats why I still use my Dainese Gore-Tex daily since 1995... Had to repair a couple of times but its worth it.
Rick Calkins
Rick Calkins Vor 5 Monate
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Vasco Pais Brandão
Vasco Pais Brandão Vor 5 Monate
Thank you sincerely! This is what we all need. Real would no BS tests that can actually be useful to the consumer.
Mark Cherriman
Mark Cherriman Vor 5 Monate
What's the point of all this ? Your tests are not real world .
Luis P
Luis P Vor 5 Monate
I enjoyed your video, it was very informative. I did however wonder way you didn't add wearing the jackets while actually walking in the rain and seeing the actual results. I've tried jackets make with some of the materials you mentioned only to be surprised that I got wet anyway. I'm only saying that a test that involved how dry you remained after walking in the rain with a jacket made out of the different materials would work.
Tony Brenton
Tony Brenton Vor 5 Monate
I would have to say you are bang on with GoreTex, great at keeping me dry but not wonderful at allowing sweat out. I know that I will spend more time needing to stay dry than cool because I am on 70mph road most of my commute. I am tight so went in to get winter Goretex gear at the end of spring when there were plenty on clearance. Got the best for what I wanted at sensible prices. I will confess I like it, but I did go to it from leathers. I was most impressed when there was flood level rain and a car threw up a literal wall of water in front of me which I rode through at 50mph and remained perfectly dry. In the height of summer I get a bit warm walking to my bike, but less than in leathers so I forgive. I think it's a case of get what suits you and you can realistically afford. City riding where you can overheat easily, GoreTex wouldn't be the best, so save your cash. My stuff was less expensive than normally cheap stuff because I bought at the right tiem. In the past I have had leathers and oversuit, which were comparitively rubbish, but cheaper on the waterproof front.
Roque Ybarra
Roque Ybarra Vor 5 Monate
I was researching goretex prior to a new snow sports jacket purchase and this helped a lot. Thanks!
Ob Fuscated
Ob Fuscated Vor 5 Monate
I just drench everything I want water-resistant (only truly non-porous garments like green rubber military rain gear from the ~1980s and prior are waterproof, I wear those motorcycling) with Scotchgard. It even worked on the classic M-65 field jackets I wore on USAF flight lines (and when riding to work). Buy two cans, not one then (outdoors) drench garment thoroughly including armpit areas. Scotchgard should be sold in fire extinguisher-sized sprayers. I also treated the issued Goretex but for seriois rain preferred (and still use) the classic ugly rubber rain gear, especially the pants.
Stephen Hill
Stephen Hill Vor 5 Monate
I have never found a breathable motorcycle jacket that as not leaked. Tried a wax jacket and trousers, not one spot got through in a 6 hour heavy rain day touring in France. The only downside was they got a little hot when the sun came out.
Skylin Megas
Skylin Megas Vor 5 Monate
Woo
John O
John O Vor 5 Monate
I actually have Gore-tex mesh holding my diaphragm together and my stomach in place after I damaged them both in a car crash.
matthew stock
matthew stock Vor 4 Monate
do you have leakge?
Garry McDowell
Garry McDowell Vor 5 Monate
Great testing , thank you.
TRU7H Therion
TRU7H Therion Vor 6 Monate
This video is basically saying that Alpinestars in house waterproofing isn't good, but there customer reviews on their waterproof gear is really good. Tell me why the science and the real world application seem to tell a different story?
Qian Bang
Qian Bang Vor 6 Monate
less than 3 haha
MARK NOATSCH
MARK NOATSCH Vor 6 Monate
Great reviews, good info, good and useful comparisons, and simply the most entertaining channel to bring these contents across to the audience. Good job and continue like this.... independent matter oriented!
Nick Twisp
Nick Twisp Vor 6 Monate
Why this channel has so few subscribers? Why DEshow notified me about this channel in 2020?!?
haywoodyoudome
haywoodyoudome Vor 5 Monate
Cheeseburger, cheeseburger, no Coke, Pepsi.
Michael Piano
Michael Piano Vor 6 Monate
Ryan, I guessed you were a chem major in school and was totally wrong. I forgot to consider you know all this physics junk lol. But to no surprise you followed Einstein's footsteps. Your videos are unmatched and thank you.
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